11 comments

  • Peteragain 1 hour ago
    IMHO translation of anything interesting requires the cultural background for context. To do it with a new language requires the translator to "go native". The mega fauna gets media attention, but they would have more chance of success with one of the many dolphin pods that live up close and personal with humans. For example Shark Bay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Mia In the 1990s we had field linguists interested, but the tech sucked. It's good to try again, but a lit search might help.
  • voidUpdate 1 hour ago
    AI and machine learning? Wow, we're combining automated computer learning with automated computer learning! Whatever will they think of next?
    • vdfs 1 hour ago
      Blockchain and NFT
      • k7peak 1 hour ago
        Log all codas to a blockchain (with actual audio) would be cool. I like how this researcher only releases peer reviewed data and doesn't over-promise. Very cool. I think most of knew this was happening but could never prove it like he has.
  • tednoob 3 hours ago
    If they are intelligent and curious, imagine if they let us come tell them tales of the world, works of fiction, musings of space, what if they swim around just letting us tell them of all the fascinating things we find out. Humanity may travel the cosmos, only to come home to tell our whale friends everything we learned. I wonder if there will be a whale someday with the dream of going to space.
    • acidhousemcnab 17 minutes ago
      They will say "no no, there's no problems we're having with pollution, and we think AI Godtech supremacy is a wonderful idea, and you should definitely pour all of humanities resources into going into space, and liquidate anyone who defies you".
    • Derberino 1 hour ago
      Well I hope not, the might finally transform to a petunia plant, which will end bad as we all know
    • suddenlybananas 2 hours ago
      That is not going to happen. I don't know how people entertain these absurd ideas about animal communication.
      • dannyw 1 hour ago
        Crows can remember a human face for 17 years, and pass this knowledge through their murder (group).

        We know animals communicate with each other, and the trend is we generally discover more and have underestimated what many animal species practice and can do.

        Everyone agrees that homo sapiens and homo neanderthalensis have talked together and lived (and bred) together; what makes inter-species communication (assuming a translator or device) impossible?

        No, I don’t think “universal translators” are outside the domain of science fiction; but I think us building a device that enables two-way communication between one species and us, is probably more likely than not.

        [1]: https://urban.uw.edu/news/crows-hold-grudges-against-individ...

        • k7peak 59 minutes ago
          I pissed off a crow once, not a good idea. It got its revenge and it was crazy how its murder group would destroy my property. Luckily they have moved on but I make friends with them now and understand them much better.
        • suddenlybananas 1 hour ago
          I think you are very naïve about how complicated language is. I'm not saying animals lack any intelligence whatsoever, but I don't see how remembering faces means you'll be able to talk. The crows could just have acted hostile to the masked people in front of each other. Communicating is not the same thing as language which is vastly more expressive than any non-human animal is capable of.

          Not everyone agrees that Neanderthals possessed language like us either, although evidently they are much, much closer evolutionarily to us than crows or whales, and it is vastly more plausible that they talked. Having Neanderthal DNA doesn't mean that we talked with them though, it needn't have been even consensual, unfortunately.

          • reverius42 31 minutes ago
            Lots of animals communicate with each other, I think we agree. If we can automatically translate their communicative utterances into English (or any other utterances that we understand), in general, that would be remarkable, and useful! Who cares whether those utterances qualify as "language".
      • kakacik 1 hour ago
        Very confident statements when know practically nothing substantial in this topic
  • srvo 45 minutes ago
    "He believed that making people fall in love with another species might do more for the ocean than any policy paper ever could."

    This got my wheels turning. Charismatic megafauna (like whales) already drive the top of the funnel for ecological awareness. Imagine what the cetacean equivalent of the staples baddie could do.

  • sm001 1 hour ago
    Communicating with dolphins is much easier than with cachalots, and we have the tech for it at www.dolphinwhispers.com
  • rufw91 3 hours ago
    Holy ** is this guy from the future :), my high school coursebook was literally about this guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Whale_Rider
  • INTPenis 4 hours ago
    Comma, the man who uses punctuation.
  • amelius 2 hours ago
    Does that mean we have a universal translator now?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_translator

    • reverius42 31 minutes ago
      Getting closer apparently!
  • newfriend 5 hours ago
    Ocean man, take me by the hand
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