A Kantian Critique of "Sorry" by Justin Bieber

(decodingvibes.com)

52 points | by altmanaltman 1 hour ago

4 comments

  • BubbleRings 26 minutes ago
    Funny. Take a simple pop song about apology and make an academic treatise on what a heartfelt apology looks like.

    On the other end of the spectrum would be to summarize it in the shortest form with the simplest words, instead of with many and multi-syllable words. How about this (not mine, I’ve heard this in addiction recovery rooms, where apologies and amends are often discussed):

    In the sentence “I’m sorry I did x, but you did y”, the word “but” means “disregard the above.”

    • Waterluvian 4 minutes ago
      I agree with the sentiment.

      But,

      Whenever I catch myself reaching for “but” I recognize it is because I need to also feel heard. What I did was unacceptable. But I didn’t do it in a vacuum and I need my grievances to be heard, too. My belief is that omitting the “but” phrase is an act of faith. You need to trust that the other party cares about your feelings and side of the issue, too. Accepting an apology is just as delicate an act as giving one.

      “I’m sorry I hit you with the blue shell.”

      “I appreciate you saying that. I know you were in last place and that must have felt awful. I don’t want that for you either.”

  • henrydark 0 minutes ago
    Song also proves Bieber is a dualist

    "cause I'm missing more than just your body"

    What else does she have that he misses?

  • cyanmagenta 41 minutes ago
    Justin Bieber is a utilitarian rather than Kantian. From a UChicago economics view, he is behaving rationally.
  • hmokiguess 49 minutes ago
    Great, now do Apologize by Timbaland from the lenses of Schopenhauer
    • jambalaya8 12 minutes ago
      I was going to say for "What Goes Around Comes Around" by Timberlake, or maybe "F--- it, I don't want you back" by Eamonn, myself. Schopenhauer though. Great minds.
    • ignoramous 36 minutes ago
      > from the lenses of Schopenhauer

      Ha! Analysing (deconstructing?) poems was part of primary schooling in middle eastern traditions wherein Philosophy & Cosmology were considered to be the highest form of Knowledge (informed by Avicenna's ideas on pedagogy & education): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/399623059_Islamic_E...

    • xianshou 20 minutes ago
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