5 comments

  • johnaoss 12 minutes ago
    They have been banning them! Ontario, Canada had legislation come into effect earlier this year that achieved the following (albeit for only for companies of 25 employees or more):

    - Required disclosure on the usage of AI in resume screening

    - Mandatory salary ranges that can only have a range of $50k (except over $200,000)

    - Required to state if the vacancy is real or 'planned for later'

    - Must respond to applicant within 45-days of the final interview updating them on the status of their application.

    Enforcement is also made slightly easier by requiring companies to retain copies of their job postings and any additional documents that are part of the application for 3 years.

  • zeckalpha 31 minutes ago
    Yet, the government requires these, e.g. in the case of PERM applicants. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/employer-recruitment...
    • trollbridge 23 minutes ago
      Well, the government actually requires a non-ghost job posting for PERM applicants. There may not be much enforcement of this, particularly employers going out of their way to try to get as few qualified applications as possible.
      • hibikir 10 minutes ago
        Because, given you aren't filing for PERM these days for someone that you have not already hired, someone off the street is going to be straight out worse than your current employee.

        PERM ade sense in a theoretical world without H1s or F1s, where you are filing PERM for someone off the street. But that almost never happens outside of cases where yes, you coud put the ad in the front page NYT and you'd still hire the candidate. And thus eitehr way you slice it, looking at the resumes of your ghost ad is a waste of time either way.

        And if one really wanted to go back to that kind of green card process, it has to be very fast anyway, instead of being as slow as it is. Otherwise it becomes useless regardless.

    • trhway 9 minutes ago
      Even if all of the PERM postings to be considered "ghost", it is just 120K postings per year
    • rotringlvr 26 minutes ago
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  • alex43578 31 minutes ago
    Great idea, virtually impossible to enforce I’d imagine.
    • trollbridge 22 minutes ago
      Quite easy to enforce with a private right of action.
      • thayne 1 minute ago
        How would you acquire evidence that it is a ghost job, and they didn't just decide to hire someone else? How would you even know if there is a case worth pursuing?
    • kylehotchkiss 30 minutes ago
      I'm sure some ambulance chasing lawyer types will make quick work of the problem
  • kylehotchkiss 31 minutes ago
    Instead of wanting to, why not just do it? This is a bipartisan win.
    • DonsDiscountGas 1 minute ago
      Seems like a difficult thing to enforce
    • xkqd 23 minutes ago
      Just speculating here but perhaps those ghost job listings are used to artificially boost the appearance of growth or even just things being business as usual.

      Might be useful to some folks.

  • tithos 45 minutes ago
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