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  • jjk166 3 hours ago
    This is an excellent example of how to communicate investigation findings. The summary is clear and succinct, there are illustrative examples readily understood by a layman, the recommendations are actionable and unambiguous, and the potential impact is quantified without promising some stupidly precise estimate. I've got some customers whose quality auditors could learn a lot from this.
  • CircuitSeuss 2 hours ago
  • Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago
    Sure, but has anyone ever built a container that lasts 30k years, and remains watertight?

    Thus far, most off-site containment storage sites over 10 years old have failed to stop containment leaks, Radon gas diffusion, or hot-material fires. Fission reactors are a 1950's loss-leader technology, and only make sense for already uninhabitable areas like space. =3

    • margalabargala 2 hours ago
      There are plenty of dry areas like in the American Southwest which can be projected to not have meaningful water attempt ingress in that time frame.

      Also, fission reactors make phenomenal sense on aircraft carriers, submarines, etc.

      • bobmcnamara 2 hours ago
        We've already leached too much uranium into the groundwater for many to drink just from the mining alone.
        • kurthr 2 hours ago
          Wait till you find out how much uranium there is in coal ash and how many tons a year are put in the air or dumped into ground water. Both the ash and uranium tailings are in the 50ppm range, but we make 100Mt per year of one of them and basically no uranium tailings in the US. Globally, the ratio is over 1Gt of coal ash and 10-20Mt of uranium tailings.

          One is currently a problem, the other isn't.

          • anonymars 1 hour ago
            Let's also not forget how much fresh water has been ruined with fracking

            "Nuclear fission: the worst energy source, except for almost all the other ones"

          • Joel_Mckay 1 hour ago
            I have a lower opinion of coal, more than any other energy source. From an economics perspective it also costs 4% more than solar now. There is no excuse to bring back 1800's steam technology.

            If you grill, use charcoal because it is short-term carbon cycle neutral.

            We have one of the largest global coal deposits, but it is also one of the most contaminated natural hot heavy metal sources currently known. Indeed, the natural run off has already closed many water wells for small towns in the area. =3

        • iamnothere 2 hours ago
          We’ve also already depleted many aquifers past the point of recovery.

          We have too many people to hydrate, too many crops to water in order to feed them, and not enough water. At some point widespread desalination is probably inevitable, but that requires a lot of energy.

          Or the public could accept a reduction in their standard of living, but that’s likely not happening without a civil war.

          • atmavatar 1 hour ago
            We're also not even attempting to be smart about our water usage, particularly when it comes to agriculture. Growing crops in a desert that require significant amounts of water to grow is already pretty bad, then exporting the bulk of those crops overseas adds insult to injury.

            Of course, all that is made possible by our pants-on-head stupid water rights laws.

          • tencentshill 44 minutes ago
            Solar energy is abundant in the places desalination is most needed. The market will balance out once that becomes apparent to constituents. They will vote to fund solar, politics are only a temporary impediment.
          • parineum 1 hour ago
            > Or the public could accept a reduction in their standard of living, but that’s likely not happening without a civil war.

            I suspect what we'll actually do is what we always do. Innovate our way into a higher standard of living while simultaneously elevating the poorest people out of poverty and finding novel ways to feed, clothe and house our population.

            It's funny how persistent malthusians are in the face of evidence to the contrary.

            • iamnothere 4 minutes ago
              We’ll see what that looks like in the face of demographic decline and increasingly expensive oil.

              It’s possible that some kind of technological miracle rescues us, but it seems more likely to me that we follow the pattern of catabolic collapse seen in the Bronze Age, Easter Island, and Europe in the Dark Ages. Civilization may rebound, sure, but humans have a history of overextension followed by decline (as do all animals).

            • Joel_Mckay 23 minutes ago
              Seems more plausible given current trends. lol =3

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

        • butvacuum 1 hour ago
          and we've collected enough arsenic from a single mine to kill every human on the planet 300 times over in one spot- what's your point? That because we screwed up one spot we should give up?

          Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Mine

          • Joel_Mckay 26 minutes ago
            Not sure why people buried your post, but many water-soluble metal salts are pretty toxic to animals and people.

            In areas with natural Arsenic accumulation (or Acid rain run off), farmers will sometimes place rusting iron equipment in the water ways to reduce metals accumulating in the topsoil.

            With low rainfall the evaporated well-water problem can certainly be a serious concern. =3

      • Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago
        Every miner knows most holes fill with water sooner or later.

        Corollary: Every sailor knows most vessels are sunk sooner or later.

        Aircraft carriers and Submarines are not civilian infrastructure, and if they sink offshore where no can live... will usually pose less of a problem like buoyant waste barrels popping up later.

        We are in the age of bargain conflicts, where throwing gold bricks at adversaries makes less sense strategically. =3

        • margalabargala 1 hour ago
          Exactly. Most is not all and the ones that don't have striking traits in common ignored only by a fool.
    • calvinmorrison 1 hour ago
      who gives a shit
      • Joel_Mckay 1 hour ago
        The living, and sometimes those dying from lung cancer. =3

        edit: Please don't down peoples karma for being crass. If it was a honest question they deserve an honest answer.

  • random__duck 2 hours ago
    Now this is a future 100 billion dollar industry!
  • freestanding 3 hours ago
    saving is always great!
  • actionfromafar 4 hours ago
    Ouch. Two billion dollars. That could have been put into much better use, imagine being able to fund the Iran war for one more day.
    • arjie 1 hour ago
      It's funny how this kind of pricing works. A bag of weed captured is estimated at a thousand dollars. Ten movies pirated at twice that. We fire a JASSM in combat and it costs a lot of money. We fire it in training and it costs nothing. There is no financial impact estimated to require all elevators be big enough to turn a full length gurney around. A wealth tax will yield revenue for the next thirty years at 30 times what it will yield this year. $6.6 billion will end world hunger but $100 billion is better spent on a train between Bakersfield and Fresno.

      I bought my car for $32k. To replace it would be $50k. I crash it, am I out $32k or $50k? Or some other number? Numerically, it could be anything.

    • falcor84 3 hours ago
      Why not both?
      • anonym29 3 hours ago
        I can think of about 39 trillion reasons... https://www.usdebtclock.org/
        • LoganDark 3 hours ago
          How do I get rid of the weird popup that wants me to download a pdf?

          Edit: there's a button in the top-right that says "Secret Window"

  • calvinmorrison 1 hour ago
    nuclear clean up is a joke. The emissions from chinas coal burning plants is 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 times worse than chucking nuclear waste in the desert at random
  • dakolli 3 hours ago
    A bunch of these nuclear power startups have started reached criticality over the last week. Aalo and Valar (thiel) and now GAO is trying to loosen regulations around nuclear waste disposal.. Makes sense.

    Weird how we only get green energy when it's necessary for the technocratic class to power their data centers (and when they are small enough to be flown on location for the military, so the military can destroy a nations power production capabilities and still be able to power their invasions).

    During Valar's announcement this week regarding achieving their goals of nuclear power generation they did a tech-style keynote address where they powered a nvidia blackwell GPU and "hosted a website with it" (lol).

    • Jtsummers 3 hours ago
      > now "doge" (GAO)

      GAO is not DOGE. For those who don't know the difference between the two, confusing them is about like confusing the President with the Senate. GAO is a Congressional agency, it does not fall under the Executive. Its purpose is in its name, and it does a pretty good job of it. It also cannot, on its own (unlike how DOGE was empowered) effect any change. They can only conduct studies and make recommendations, it's up to Congress and the relevant Executive branch agencies to address the recommendations or not.

      > (GAO) is trying to loosen regulations around nuclear waste disposal.

      This is not about loosening regulations, it's about DOE Office of Environmental Management not following its own guidance when documenting mission needs (which happen before Analysis of Alternatives (AOA). The problem GAO is identifying here is relatively minor (compared to other problems their other studies have found), but potentially costly, in that they have identified numerous instances of proposing a particular solution too early, which can constrain what's considered later on during the AOA effort.

      • Terr_ 3 hours ago
        I suspect parent-poster simply intended to write OMB [0] instead. Perhaps because both initialisms [1] refer to government groups that sometimes publish important reports about budgets.

        [0] https://prospect.org/2026/02/05/doge-russell-vought-elon-mus...

        [1] Pedantically: Not acronyms, which are spoken like a full word. Ex: FIFA is usually an acronym "feefah", not an initialism "Eff-Eye-Eff-Aye".

      • payphonefiend 3 hours ago
        A sane and well put together comment. Thank you. This should be the standard for discussion here.
      • mindslight 3 hours ago
        > GAO is a Congressional agency, it does not fall under the Executive

        I don't know that it's accurate to say such things any more, due to the unitary executive decree by the supreme council. The GAO is intrinsically motivated by law - both to carry out its purpose, and simply to pay its employees - and the supreme council has decreed that all execution of the law is subject to the whims of the president. If the president woke up from his afternoon nap and told GAO employees they weren't going to get paid unless they did a certain thing, it's certainly possible that the supreme council might walk back their earlier decree (although good luck with the payment infrastructure already being pwnt and all that). But it's also possible they might not, given how they've already approved other autocratic dynamics.

        • zdragnar 2 hours ago
          They aren't part of the executive branch, period. The president has no control over their pay or performance. Hell, the president doesn't have nearly as much control over the executive branch as you imply, however much he might want it.
          • gwerbin 2 hours ago
            But Congress is very comfortable so far just letting the executive branch do whatever. Even if the orders aren't emanating from the oval office directly, there's clearly a coordinated agenda in motion. It's entirely reasonable to suspect that the GAO has been politicized in that environment.
          • mindslight 2 hours ago
            You've just blindly asserted a whole bunch of things without laying out any sort of supporting arguments. What exactly makes the GAO not "part of the executive branch" ? My understanding is that "branches" are merely a framework used for describing government, not a prescriptive org chart. And how do the GAO's employees get paid, if not by a system that is now under the control of the autocratic Executive?
            • gwerbin 2 hours ago
              The branches are explicitly defined in the Constitution.
              • mindslight 1 hour ago
                What we consider an the branches are defined in the Constitution, but my point is they are not simply defined as the top-level in a hierarchy of organizations, but rather behaviorally based on what function is being performed.
            • Jtsummers 2 hours ago
              > What exactly makes the GAO not "part of the executive branch" ?

              https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/702

              >> (a)The Government Accountability Office is an instrumentality of the United States Government independent of the executive departments.

              The law establishing it also establishes it as independent.

      • dakolli 3 hours ago
        I mixed up some names. The timing doesn't seem coincidental. We are at the end of Executive Order 14301, signed May 2025, which called for at least three test reactors to reach criticality by July 4, 2026.

        So immediately after Trumps nuclear power project ends (of which his son's and all his friends are invested in these neo-nuclear power companies), and a bunch of companies reach criticality this week, the government starts issuing orders to make things easier for them to be profitable.

        Your naive to think it's anything else other than corruption.

      • CobrastanJorji 2 hours ago
        > GAO is a Congressional agency, it does not fall under the Executive

        Ah ah ah, you're describing how things were before Trump v. Slaughter, when the Supreme Court justices ruled that Republican Presidents are allowed to fire the heads of non-executive agencies so long as they are not the Federal Reserve.

        • parineum 1 hour ago
          You must have missed the Chevron doctrine case where the supreme court took much of the ability for Congress to give away their power to the executive in the guise of creating agencies.
        • sorosnet 50 minutes ago
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    • fc417fc802 3 hours ago
      Is it really that weird? The regulatory morass suddenly starts opening up when enough money is involved. Seems almost like a universal truth.
    • lclarkmichalek 3 hours ago
      Isn’t it a fairly natural (and useful) capitalist outcome that as prices rise incentives to increase supply increase? What’s technocratic about responding to a demand change?
      • dakolli 3 hours ago
        because they have infiltrated the government to reduce the cost of safety, and increase the possibility of environmental harm to pad their margins... faster shit code, AI cat videos and so they can add 100ft to the length of their next boat?
        • fc417fc802 3 hours ago
          > infiltrated the government

          That's an awfully emotionally charged way to phrase "lobbied in the same way that everyone else does". When a matter of geopolitical interest that's consuming a significant fraction of the national economy is being impeded by the current regulations it seems entirely expected that the government would start making changes. If anything refusing to make changes under those circumstances would be truly bizarre.

          Sure at present they also have a substantially more sympathetic admin than usual but that's the current climate that everyone is working in.

          • jauntywundrkind 3 hours ago
            The presumption of regularity here is a joke. This administration has grifted swindled no-bid awarded and bought out anything they please with reckless abandon, Vought is actively Project 2025 shutting done any and everything not run by the most fanatical political operatives.

            It's impossible to pretend like any agencies are functioning in any way as normal, are using objective scientific expert based assessments to govern.

            • fc417fc802 59 minutes ago
              I don't necessarily think you're wrong but I do think it's a non sequitur. The broader geopolitical and economic situation surrounding the advent of AI and datacenters has approximately nothing to do with the way the most recent US election went.
            • gwerbin 2 hours ago
              To be fair this was all happening before, just 10x less. And the current minority party was often willing to ignore it when it was their people doing it. So yes it's bad on a generational scale and we might never recover from it, but we also have to admit that we are reaping the fruit of a bipartisan-sown seed.
              • jauntywundrkind 1 hour ago
                The previous party left opposition party people in power many times. Which, like, is how the US has worked for a century and a half. It was not a spoils system, in 98% of cases.

                This is pure spoils. In a way America has never remotely seen ever before. Utter rankest most foul spoils, nothing but pure politics, with essentially no moderators.

                • parineum 55 minutes ago
                  The point is that this method of grift isn't new or partisan. The magnitude is what is new.

                  Government contracts have been awarded to people with connections since forever. It's absolutely nothing new. There's just no fog leaf now, Trump skips the part where he's pretending it was a fair bidding process.

        • cucumber3732842 3 hours ago
          Who do you think was making money when all those safety and environmental compliance solutions got all but written into law?

          If you think the ruling class isn't making money coming and going I've got a bridge to sell you.

    • Pxtl 3 hours ago
      Can Tolkien's estate please do something?
      • Terr_ 2 hours ago
        In seriousness, probably not, unless US "intellectual property" law gets worse somehow.

        Short phrases fall under trademarks rather than copyrights, and even then it needs to be something that would cause commercial confusion, and very few people are going to buy a Tolkien book expecting a nuclear reactor or vice-versa.

    • zer00eyz 3 hours ago
      > is trying to loosen regulations around nuclear waste disposal

      And here lies the problem that ever one wants to burry their head in the sand about.

      Can one, in theory, make safe nuclear reactors. You bet you can.

      The thing is that you cant leave a bunch of "we will deal with that later" problems laying around. In the case of the US thats spent fuel rods. Should one worry about these, no, but you also don't want them as the slats on your kids mattress frame. They are fine where they are.

      The French, because of fuel constraints, built fuel reprocessing into their nuclear "system" (and it is that, a whole system). We just leave spent fuel sitting around as a "later problem", because for us, its just much cheaper to mine and refine more uranium than it is to clean up the "spent" fuel we have.

      The moment that you need to build in reprocessing (and solve that pesky later problem) the economics of nuclear stop making sense.

      • fc417fc802 3 hours ago
        Whether or not waste is reprocessed there will be high level waste that needs to be disposed of. It's merely a matter of volume produced per unit of energy. Either approach is entirely reasonable.

        The inability of the US to formally approve a permanent disposal site is purely political. Still, at this point enough other countries have managed to do so that we might eventually be able to pay to export our waste to one of them instead of solving our own dysfunction.

      • __float 3 hours ago
        What are the fuel constraints the French have that we don't?

        Is it geographic (we have a lot more unused/undesirable than France, for example), regulatory, etc?

        • iamnothere 2 hours ago
          They had access to uranium sourced cheaply from former North African colonies, but now they no longer have that access.

          We have ample deposits and (for now) easy access to Canadian deposits. I imagine that there are deals in place to secure that access at an efficient price given the national security angle at play.